Drawing has Saved my Life: In Conversation with Priya Sebastian

March 21, 2024
9 min read
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Purvi Rajpuria

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Sometimes we forget the sheer fascination that drawings can evoke. In the design world, drawings– or illustrations– serve the very specific purpose of solving design problems. While this is a legitimate application of the field of drawing, it is not the only one. Priya’s illustrations stand as a reminder of all the other wondrous and evocative possibilities that images contain.  

Thoughtfully composed, and sharply constructed, her illustrations pull you out of the numbness towards visuals that inevitably sets in in an image-saturated culture. Each stroke in her drawings is bold and intentional; it carries a trace of the artist’s hand. When surrounded by a sea of smooth, digitally processed images, a raw charcoal mark (as opposed to a poor Procreate simulation) feels precious. It is precisely the imperfections: the slight quiver of the hand, or an unforeseen smudge of charcoal– that make her drawings so deeply human.

First in our series of blog posts titled Process Please, this conversation with Bangalore based illustrator Priya Sebastian, unpacks the journey that led her to making the work that she does today. What has her journey so far been like? What roadblocks has she faced, and how did she overcome them? What are the sites, spaces, and processes that have helped her grow as an artist, find a footing in the field? And finally, what is the core idea or the motivation driving her practice? 

Illustrations from Priya’s first picture book titled Is it the Same for You, 2019. Image Courtesy: Priya Sebastian.
Art and Illustration: Early Forays

Purvi Rajpuria: How did you enter this elusive field called “Illustration”? Did you always know you wanted to be part of it?

Priya Sebastian: I always loved drawing, but in those days (early to mid 90s) I had no idea this field (“illustration”) existed. I had just graduated from a local art college in Bangalore, and was working at a design studio doing illustrations for children. I used to make these cartoon figures in Rotring pen, and fill them in with watercolour. Then, the head of the design studio went to something called the Bologna Children’s Book Fair. This was the pre-internet era. What did we know about the Bologna Book Fair? We didn’t even know that such a thing as an “illustrator” existed. And when I found out about a book fair primarily dealing in illustrated books, I remember thinking “Oh my god, there is a profession such as this, where somebody will give me a story and I can illustrate it!”

That’s when I started exploring options. One thing led to the other, and I applied to the Queensland College of Art in Australia for a Masters in Illustration.

Purvi: That’s fascinating. I can’t picture you working with Rotring pens and watercolours (laughs). I imagine the Masters program changed that. How would you say your illustration course in Australia was different from what you studied at the local art college in Bangalore? 

Priya: In the art college here, they made us do a lot of still lifes and pencil shading during the Foundations course. To move away from that, I decided to specialise in Applied Art. That was the name given to Graphic Design. This was the pre-computer era, so if pencil shading was traumatic in its precision and rigidity, we now had to do hand lettering with Rotring pens and brushes. It was horrible. I used to use comic sans font everywhere to make my life easier (laughs). Nothing that was taught there is relevant today…It was a waste of three years. 

In Australia, though, as fate would have it, my supervisor and mentor was Armin Greder, who had a very profound influence on my approach to illustration. He asked me to keep my pencil aside, and gave me a stick of charcoal. So basically from a sharp instrument, I had to use a blunt instrument. And how do you draw with a blunt instrument? I had to overturn my thinking completely. I had to think in the form of shapes, rather than looking at and drawing what was in front of me. And I had to learn how to create a composition. I realised that how you compose an image is part of how you tell a story. It's about what you choose to bring into focus, and what you choose to delete from an image.

He asked me to keep my pencil aside, and gave me a stick of charcoal. So basically from a sharp instrument, I had to use a blunt instrument. I had to overturn my thinking completely. I had to think in the form of shapes, rather than looking at and drawing what was in front of me.

And I also learnt how to combine image and text. It’s a very classical form of illustration, and there is a science behind how you interpret the text in front of you. If for example you are given the word "vision", drawing a pair of eyes to illustrate that word would be very trite. However, if you draw, say…an apple on a child's head…and an arrow through the apple…it would be a far superior illustration of the word! 

Purvi: It’s really interesting how this tool– a stick of charcoal– changed the way you approached your work. It also seems to be a shift from a technical approach to a conceptual one. When I look at your work, I can tell that you spend a lot of time thinking about what you want to show in relation to the text, in addition how you show it. 

Priya: Yes, I approach it like problem solving. I go back to the Old Masters a lot. Especially the Italian Renaissance, to see how they solve problems of composition. You have to stylise images in such a way that it tells a story, within the composition. That’s what I try to look for. 

Three iterations for an illustration from Priya’s latest picture book titled Mommies. Here she attempts to solve how to best illustrate the text “Mommy loves her hair”. She finally arrives at the left-most drawing.

Back in India: Finding a Footing in the Field

Purvi: Can you tell me about your early years as an illustrator in India? How did you apply all that you had learnt in Australia to your practise after you returned to the country? What was the creative landscape here like? 

Priya: When I came back to Bangalore in 1999, there was nothing over here. It was like reentering a cage after two years of freedom, something a lot of Indian students felt when they returned from studying abroad in the 90s. I found it very difficult to fit back in. 

Professionally, there was no design firm that I could apply to. I taught at a local design college in Bangalore for a year, and then did a web-design course to work at a dot-com. It paid well, but I was very unhappy. I was sitting in an air conditioned office, changing a screen from green to blue, that’s all. I wasn’t doing any illustration or drawing at all. And there were my parents with a very rigid and parochial mentality, who I felt obliged to prove myself to. Life was not alright then. 

I had studied so much in Australia and returned with an entire thesis on the role and representation of women in Grimm’s Fairy Tales and their contemporary retellings. I had a body of illustration work accompanying the thesis, but there was no outlet for all this in Bangalore. I was constantly looking out to see where I could fit in or make use of the knowledge and skills I had acquired. Nowadays you can put up your work on the internet, and things happen. You can engage with others who do similar work. Back then I was very isolated. Also the fact that my pictures aren’t pretty, colourful or cute resulted in pretty much no outlet for them at all. My former boss, the one for whom I used to do Rotring pen illustrations at the design studio, told me my portfolio illustrations were very bleak. Those who saw my work then, all those years ago didn’t quite know what to do with it. Most only asked me two questions: “Oh you didn’t want to stay back in Australia?” And, “You didn’t find anybody to get married to?” Their lack of imagination was very sad, actually. 

Purvi: So how did you finally find your footing in the illustration world here? Were there some people or tools that helped you find good work?

Priya: A few years after I moved back to Bangalore from Australia both my parents died within a few months of each other, and I was suddenly completely alone. It was an extremely challenging few years, but I also realised then that I had no societal obligations, no parental, religious or community pressures, I alone was in charge of my life and I would have to make the decision which direction I would want to take it in. That is a privilege actually. Most women don’t even have that choice with the obligations they are expected to fulfil. That is when I sat at my desk and began drawing. It was the only thing I knew to do at that time. I found it a hugely validating process. I began searching for my voice in my drawing and when I did that I found myself reclaiming parts of me that had been erased. When you do what you love, the self-confidence it gives you is enormous. 

That is when I sat at my desk and began drawing. It was the only thing I knew to do at that time. I began searching for my voice in my drawing and found myself reclaiming parts of me that had been erased.

And, I think that is where this foundation that I had tried to build in Australia– that had kept getting knocked down over and over again– I rebuilt it again in a stronger way.

During that time I had just moved into an apartment in Cooke Town. A friend took me to visit an artist, Milind Nayak, who lived down the road. That’s when I saw an artist’s studio for the first time, and noticed how it was structured. He kept his art-materials on one side, neatly sorted out in cubicles and boxes, all his drawings had tracing sheets covering them. He had an assistant who numbered and documented each of his paintings, and every work of art was mounted and framed in a spare room. 

He also had this chest of drawers similar to that you see in my living room, with a lightbox on top, and all his charcoal and pastel works were laid out flat in those drawers. Irrespective of the quality of his work, he took a great deal of pride in it. And I realised, I who had been blessed with so much talent and skill took no pride in my work at all because society and family taught me that what I was doing was not important. I had been taught to be apologetic for doing what I did and loved. I realised that I had to change that mindset. That what I do is important because it matters to me, my presence matters, I matter and what I do matters. Irrespective of the judgements of others. 

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Building Community: Online and in Person

Purvi: I am very fascinated by blogging culture, and am almost nostalgic about a pre-Instagram world, even though I didn’t really experience it first hand. I have heard you talk about blogging being an integral part of your illustration journey. Can you tell me a little more about it?

Priya: So in 2007, a friend of mine introduced me to this entity called the “blog”. I started using it for fun more than anything else. Then friends started commenting on the blog, and then other people too…then before I realised it, I was connecting with like-minded people from other countries who did work similar to what I did, they were artists ,illustrators and creative people, and suddenly I had this wonderful community around me. For all those people who left a comment on my blog those years ago, I am so grateful to them. It gives you a huge amount of validation when you are sitting and drawing alone in your room, and have been made to feel guilty about doing what you do, and dismissed because you don’t practise a socially sanctioned profession like doctor or engineer. So it was really great to form friendships with a creative community online. And then art-directors from Delhi started noticing my work and giving me work. This is like proper illustration work. And that’s when things slowly started changing for me professionally. 

Purvi: I know you were posting a lot of your sketchbook work on your blog at the time. Did you have an active sketchbook practice at the time? 

Priya: Around the same time as when I was blogging, I became part of a sketch club, where we used to meet on Sundays, and we would start drawing. And it was really great because in those initial 1-2 years, when you watch other people drawing, you see them tackling say landscapes, and you see them solve a visual problem. What is in front of them, and how they translate it onto paper. Everyone has their unique representation of the environment that they are tackling in their drawing. And you learn a lot by just watching other people, and you start evolving your own style. 

Some of my happiest memories were where, very early in the morning, we’d pile into a friend’s car, and we’d just drive off into the outskirts of Bangalore. And just stop at some random place and start sketching. And we would return after dark with a sketchbook full of drawings. Eating was secondary. You just stop at some roadside idli joint and eat there. 

When you watch other people drawing, you see them tackling say landscapes, and you see them solve a visual problem. You learn a lot by just watching other people, and you start evolving your own style. 

So I did a hell of a lot of drawing. And artists will agree that the more you draw, the energy around you changes, and it brings good things into your life. So that, and blogging. I started getting a lot of work. Illustration work. Which probably didn’t exist earlier. I started getting work from The Indian Quarterly, Current Conservation, The Caravan, and several publishers. That’s when my career picked up. 

The Work Itself: Colour, Shapes, and the Creative Impulse.  

Purvi: Two things really stand out in your work. One is, your approach to colour, and the second is the subjects you gravitate towards. I am curious about the subjects you feel compelled by? 

Priya: Okay, that’s very interesting…I’ve never really thought of that…One is the shape. I feel compelled to draw when a particular shape interests me, and when there is an interesting juxtaposition of the shape with the background. Like if you saw in one of my sketchbooks, the tamarind tree. It was this big spherical shape against the road that I saw when I was walking past. So that is what interested me. So I went back, and I did that drawing. 

Then, I remember when I went to Hampi, those big bold shapes really interested me. Those textured rocks, which are oblong in shape, against the currents of the river. I remember doing the rocks in graphite, which gave it a granite effect. And I used green pastel as the colour for the river. It brought out a contrast. And that’s where again, what you asked me about colour coming in. I don’t use colour unless it is specifically to say something. So, like in the Hampi picture, it was the green of the river against the grey of the rocks. And that’s it. It said what it had to say. Nothing more, nothing less.

With the tamarind tree, it was dark against the rest of the background. So I just used black. And because I had a little bit of brown with me, I used that. But no other colour is used. There’s no need for it. 

Yeah…it’s that. Only if it’s necessary, I use one, at the most two colours. That’s all. 

Some of Priya’s early charcoal works. They are all large. The right-most drawing measures: 41 inches  x 26 inches. The drawings were made in 2010, 2010, and 2015 (left to right). Image courtesy: Priya Sebastian

Purvi: When I look at your work over time, I can see some sort of progression. While your earlier work was much bigger, and darker, it seems like you now draw slightly smaller, and use a wider palette of colours. Can you talk about this transition?

Priya: In the years subsequent to the deaths of my parents, I had to face the world solo. This is very challenging in Indian society which is very patriarchal. One has to face a lot of prejudices and it comes as a shock when it surfaces in people you have known since childhood who suddenly treat you very differently. This resulted in a lot of frustration and anger which needed an outlet of expression. A therapist suggested that whenever I felt this surge of frustration, I should simply get up and draw. Also at that time, I was looking a lot at the drawings of Picasso from the 1940s, and the sheer boldness and insouciance of his lines. It showed me a possibility. I also had with me a stick of Chunky Charcoal which back in the day I had bought at an art supply shop in Singapore. I think it was a combination of these three factors which got me drawing as I did, large, dark, cathartic outpourings of emotion which had been so suppressed for so long.

Purvi: Did the medium you were using, that is chunky charcoal, help you communicate this anger? 

Priya: Yes. With charcoal, you have to let the material talk. Let it say what it wants to say. Don’t control it too much. Let it take its own course. There’s no in between tool that comes between the charcoal and you. It is just the charcoal and your hands and fingers. The energy flows out of your fingers onto the paper you are using. And while this might sound a bit gross, the sweat from your hand, it interacts with the charcoal and provides whatever texture you want. And so much has to do with pressure, how much pressure you exert, or decide not to exert, and what you decide to leave out. The negative and positive spaces matter and you  are working in broad shapes and bold strokes. You are not working with the precision of a surgeon using a sharp instrument like a pencil. That’s when all spontaneity vanishes. 

Back then, I didn’t know what to do with the energy. It had erupted out of me after being suppressed for so long and it was very expansive. Now, I have learnt to…not exactly control it…but to accommodate it and channelise it in very particular directions.

Recently, though, I stayed in a village on the outskirts of Bangalore, and I started drawing with these Pentel pens…it’s only now that I’ve started moving away from charcoal, and it’s nice. I mean, that boldness carries on. Like it has helped me…back then, I didn’t know what to do with the energy. It had erupted out of me after being suppressed for so long and it was very expansive. Now, I have learnt to…not exactly control it…but to accommodate it and channelise it in very particular directions. So, the drawings are smaller, the mediums I use can change, it can be more accommodative of the subject–like what you’ve seen in my latest picture book. And it is still effective, it is still bold. So, the energy is very different now from what it was then, whereas before I let a combination of the medium and the energy to express themselves uninhibitedly now I harness the energy to work for me.

Some of Priya’s recent ink-based work from her sketchbook. These illustrations were made in 2023.

Purvi: Finally, I want to ask: you talk a lot about boldness in your work. This seems to be the anchor for your practice. Where does this commitment to boldness come from? 

Priya: When I started drawing seriously, I realised that if you wanted to say something in your drawings it had to be articulated with clarity and this is where the quality of the line that one uses becomes so important. You can see this especially in Picasso’s works from the 40s where his lines are a combination of sensitivity and absolute boldness and one is never sacrificed for the other. I used to look at YouTube videos of how he used to draw. He doesn’t pause, he doesn’t hesitate, he just draws. Like with the insouciance of a child. That is the word: insouciance: for when you don’t give a damn. It’s just you and your medium, and the blank paper in front of you. That kind of boldness is what I wanted.

In the movie Great Expectations (1998), there is a scene where the boy Pip draws Estella with such freedom and lack of self-consciousness which I remember I found very, very inspiring. I think these two things are the source of inspiring me to draw boldly.

It is this boldness that helps me counter the hesitation and diffidence that a lot of Indian women have.  Because we are so frightened and so battered down by society telling us that any choice we make is wrong. To get out of that I have to have that insouciance. That is to be bold with my drawings. And that changes your mindset towards how you interact with the rest of the world. 

Purvi: That’s really interesting, you know, that being bold in your work, helped you imbibe that quality in life…

Priya: Yes, yes, I found that the more I was comfortable in expressing myself on paper, the more effective I was in navigating through life. 

There is this very favourite quote of mine, by this artist called Teresita Fernandez which reflects this sentiment. To paraphrase what she said, “through the most difficult times in life, when you have money problems, you have family problems or you’re going through heartbreak…go back to your work and focus on it. It will save you by providing you with a kind of scaffolding that is far more different than any traditional notions of a career.” And that is so true…drawing has saved my life.

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The interview has been edited and condensed.

Priya Sebastian’s powerful monochromatic compositions are created with charcoal. In the last few years she has illustrated two picture books, Is It The Same For You? Published by Seagull Books and most recently Mommies, which was chosen as one of the 100 Outstanding Books by dPictus at the Bologna Book Fair.

Purvi Rajpuria is a visual designer at Studio Bahubhashi.

Detail of sketchbook drawing from Lalbagh in Bangalore. 2012. Image courtesy: Priya Sebastian, Drawing from Lalbagh in Bangalore. 2012. Image courtesy: Priya Sebastian, A scene from Hampi. 2013., A scene from Matera in the south of Italy. 2013., A sketchbook spread. 2021., A scene from Padukere in Udupi. 2022., A sketchbook spread. 2023., A tamarind tree that enthralled Priya, 2024.